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Trading for a living, that’s your dream, isn’t it?
You can trade from anywhere in the world, have the freedom to do the things you love, and never worry about money again (as long as you have an internet connection).
So, what’s the catch?
Well, check this out…
A group of researchers did a study on Brazilian day traders between 2013 and 2015.
They wanted to find out how many % of traders made money consistently.
And do you know what they found?
- 97% of them lost money
- 4% earned more than a bank teller (about $54 per day)
- The top trader earned $310 per day
Clearly, the odds are against you.
So forget about the fast cars, hot chicks, and relaxing beaches — those are comforting lies to distract you from reality.
If that’s what you prefer to hear, then you can close this page now.
But if you want to know the real truth about trading for a living, then get ready for what I’m about to share with you…
You must have an edge in the markets
You might have heard the saying…
“Trading is 80% psychology”
That’s BS.
I don’t care how good your trading psychology is or whether you have the best risk management in the world.
Because without an edge, none of it matters.
Not convinced?
Then go down to a casino, bring along the best psychologist and gamble with proper risk management.
It won’t take you long before you start losing.
Clearly, this won’t work because you don’t have an edge over the house — and it’s the same for trading.
So if you want to trade for a living, focus on finding your edge before anything else.
Moving on…
You need money to make money
Sorry to burst your bubble, but you need money to make money in this business. Here’s why…
Let’s say you make an average of 20%/year.
- On a $1000 account, it’s $200/year
- On a $100,000 account, it’s $20,000/year
- On a $1m account, it’s 200,000/year
Now, you might think 20% a year is too low, and you can do 100% a year.
Sure, that’s possible with huge risk-taking. But I’m talking about making consistent returns, not “the go big or go home” kind of returns.
Don’t believe me?
Then ask yourself… “Why do hedge funds raise so much money? Why not just trade their own money so they have no one to answer to?”
Because you need money to make money in this business. Still not convinced?
Then go find out who are the richest traders in the world. You’ll realize most of them owns a hedge fund that has raised millions (if not billions) of dollars. Why? To make this world a better place and eradicate poverty in this world.
Why you can have a winning strategy and still be a losing trader
No, it’s nothing to do with your risk management or discipline. It’s something you probably didn’t think of (and I’ll tell in a while).
But first, here’s an example…
Let’s say you have a $50,000 trading account.
You make an average of $20,000 a year from day trading.
But, that’s not the amount you take home because you haven’t factored in commissions.
Now, let’s say your commission on a round trip (buy & sell) is $40, and you trade 1000 times a year.
In total, you pay $30,000 a year in commissions.
Now let’s do the math:
You make $20,000 in profits and pay $30,000 in commissions.
Net result? You lost $10,000 for the year.
But, what if you reduce your commission to just $10?
Now you make $20,000 in profits and pay $10,000 in commissions — and you’re a profitable trader!
Now can you see how deadly commissions can be?
Most traders neglect it and simply go with any broker they come across.
But the math doesn’t lie. If you pay high commissions, your equity curve won’t go high.
Next…
The true cost of trading for a living
Here’s the thing:
If you make $50,000 a year from trading, did you really make $50,000?
Now if you previously had a job that pays $100,000 a year, then you didn’t make $50,000 from trading.
Instead, you lost $50k from trading.
I’ll explain…
If you’re not trading, you could be working elsewhere earning $100,000 instead of $50,000. That potential loss of $50,000 is an opportunity cost to you.
So, don’t look at how much you made from trading.
Instead, ask yourself what could you accomplish (or earn) if you were NOT trading for a living?
That’s the true cost of it.
The secret to making profits every day
Take a guess…
Best trading strategy?
Nope.
Do you want to know the secret?
It’s this… the frequency of your trades.
Yes, you read me right.
If you want to make money every single day, you must have a high frequency of trades — so the law of large number can work in your favour (within a short period of time).
Confused?
No worries, I’ll explain…
- Imagine you have a special coin in your hands
- If it comes up head, you win $2
- If it comes up tail, you lose $1
But here’s the catch, you can only toss your coin once a day.
Do you think you’ll make money every single day?
Of course not.
Why?
Because in the short run, your coin toss results are random — you could get tails many times in a row (and thus losing many days in a row).
Now, what if you can toss your coin 1000 times per day, how will the results change?
Well, you’ll get close to 50% heads and 50% tails after 1000 tosses — which means you’re guaranteed to make money every day because your edge can play out within a short period of time.
So, the “trick” here isn’t your winning rate or risk-reward ratio but, your trading frequency.
Does it make sense?
Great!
Because this concept is the same as trading.
If you want to make money every day, you must have a high frequency of trades.
But is this feasible for a retail trader?
In my opinion, the odds are stacked against you because commissions run sky high and it’s unlikely you can spot so many trading opportunities using your naked eye (consistently and profitably).
That’s why this field is largely dominated by high-frequency trading firms and yes, they can make money (almost) every day.
One example is Virtu Financial who had 1 day of trading losses in 1,238 days.
So, does it mean you can’t trade for a living?
Nope.
It means you shouldn’t expect to make money every single day. And that’s not to say you can’t make money every quarter, or every year.
If you want a long-term trading career, do this…
I don’t care how good you are, but the truth is, you won’t make money every day (unless you’re Virtu Financial).
Why?
Because the markets are always changing. (It can move from an uptrend to a downtrend, low volatility to high volatility, etc.)
So if the markets are always changing, it means your trading strategy won’t work all the time (and that’s how you enter a drawdown).
So, what can you do about it?
#1: Keep your profits during the good times so you can pay for your losses during the bad. The key is to play good defence so you can survive and see the good times again.
#2: Set aside 12-months of living expenses separate from your trading account. This way, even if you have losing weeks or months, you can still pay the bills and put food on the table.
Cool?
A new way to trade for a living
At this point, you’ve realized trading for a living is not what it seems.
You must have an edge in the markets, sufficient trading capital, opportunity cost, and the right expectations.
And you can’t trade like the hedge funds because they have access to a large pool of capital, can pay themselves a salary (whether they make money or not), and opportunity cost is negligent.
Clearly, the odds are against you.
So now the question is, how do you level the playing field?
That’s what you’re about to discover…
Share your knowledge and get compensated for it
This is what I do.
I educate others on how to trade the financial markets, and in return, I get paid when they purchase my premium courses.
And what do I do with the money?
After paying all expenses, I use it to increase the size of my trading account!
Remember, the larger your capital size, the more profits you can make (without increasing your risk).
Also, this doesn’t have to be trading related because if you have skills which are in demand, you can offer that as well.
For example…
- If you are skilled in using Microsoft Excel, you can create a course on it
- If you specialize in creating viral videos, you can teach others how to do it
- If you specialize in training dogs, you can set up a program around it
The possibilities are endless.
Pro Tip:
If you’re not sure how to get started, the easiest way is to offer 1 to 1 coaching (through skype or meetups).
It takes less work to set up and you still get paid the same (or even higher).
Be an affiliate for products (or services) you believe in
But what if you have no skill or specialize knowledge people are willing to pay for?
No worries.
Because you can also be an affiliate for products or services.
Now you might be wondering:
“What’s an affiliate?”
An affiliate is someone who earns a fee (or commission) when someone signs up for a product they recommend.
Need some ideas?
Then here are some products (or services) that offer affiliate partnerships…
(Note: I’m not endorsing any of them. These are just examples for educational purposes.)
Brokers – ICMarkets, AxiTrader, Blueberry markets, etc.
Platforms – TradingView, CQG, Trading Technologies, etc.
Tools – TraderVue, Edgewonk, Forex Tester, etc.
Again, the possibilities are endless.
All you need to do is reach out to the service provider and ask them if they offer any affiliate partnerships, and that’s it!
Now, a word of warning.
Never promote products you don’t believe in just for the sake of affiliate fees — it’s not worth burning bridges for short-term gains.
At this point…
You might be thinking…
“You’re not a real trader. You’re just a salesman.”
If that’s the case then the hedge fund guys are the best salesman in the world. They raise billions of dollars managing other people’s money — taking a cut of their profits without paying any losses.
The best part?
You call them real traders.
So, let’s get real shall we? (pun intended).
Moving on…
Let me ask you…
What do you want to get out of trading? Why do you want to trade? What’s the end goal?
I’m guessing it’s probably one of these reasons…
- Financial freedom
- Escape from the corporate world
- Not having to stay at a job you hate
- Peace of mind knowing you have another source of income
In other words, trading is just a means to an end, right?
So…
Would you stick to the old way of trading for a living — save up a lump sum of money, grind it out, and hope for the best?
Or, adopt this new way of trading, so you can reach your goals quicker, safer, and with less risk?
Now before you go, I’d like to hear your thoughts on this.
So leave a comment below and let me know what you think.
The most honest explanation of day trading I have seen. Great Job
being honest.
Thanks
Dick
Thanks bud!
Thanks Rayner.
But when you say frequency, how can you avoid overtrading when dealing with the law of large numbers?
It seems somewhat contradicting from not trading “too often” and not trade just to trade – how do you best manage frequency?
Thanks in advance,
Jack
Find the edge that works for you and only trade your edge. This takes care of managing frequency. How? Well, if you stick to only trading your edge, you wont trade no matter what if you don’t see your edge 🙂
if you have proven strategy, just convert them into an EA. ruled based trading. and let the robot trades for you.
I’m an IT professional and trading is my hobby. I can create own EA based on manual strategy, not necessarily to be 100% the same as there is a limitation on the technical aspect. However, if you can convert 80% of your strategy into EA, that would be good enough.
back test thoroughly and forward test.
as famous Warren Buffet says, “if you don’t find a way to make money while you are sleep, you need to work for the rest of your life”
Overtrading is somewhat subjective. If you have an edge in the markets, then you want your system to execute the trades as often as possible so the law of large number can work in your favour.
And how often you can find trading opportunities results from the timeframe and number of markets you trade.
Hi Rayner
Thank you for this honest article.
I just have one question for you.
You talk about having an edge or advantage in the market. I am really missing out on this. Can you elaborate with live examples what it means to have an edge in the market or how can a trader develop an edge in the market or preferable let’s use you as an example what can you say is the edge you have over the market.
Thanks
I believe the edge Rayner is referring to at a high level is, to learn price action patterns well and keep practicing it and stick to the ones that work for you. Never deviate. To explain in detail: Go back in your history and see when you made money in trading, look and study at the chart(s) that gave the confidence for you take that winning trade and understand the patterns around it. Keep looking for it today and in future on the markets you trade and in the chart timeframes you trade. You may not get that pattern every day what you are looking for. If you don’t see it, don’t trade! It’s okay to wait for tomorrow. May be you will get it 10 times a day – only you will know. Once you know what that is, that is the edge!
The key take away is, once you found your edge, its yours and just be at it. The edge that works for you, most likely will not work for me or anyone else. Thats the beauty of the markets!
I also have the same worry. I hope he answers us ASAP.
This is one way… https://www.tradingwithrayner.com/trading-journal/
Also, I’ll be releasing a podcast episode about it soon, so do check back for it…
Real gist… please give more gist like this asvyou share strategies.
Hi Rayner, I am really happy to see you make it so simple to understand. You always talk to the point and very sensible. Thank you.
My pleasure!
I like your honesty Rayner. Please keep this up. There is a lot of trainers out there promising the earth to unsuspecting newbies.
Cheers Rose.
Ouch. This is so real this post hurts !
I know.
But at least know you know what it takes and can take the right steps towards it. Best!
Naked truth right there
Yeah!
Another great article. Thank you for your great contributions to educate beginner traders across the world. God bless you.
Cheers
Hello Rayner, I am learning a lot from your videos and Knowledge articles. I feel the last missing block in my Trading puzzle is how to plan Entry and Exit or simply trade setups. If you can help with one of the article or video on trade setup that will be of great help.
You are a very good teacher.
Regards
Friend (India)
Just use the ‘search’ function on the top right-hand corner. You can find articles on it.
I agree with Krishnan’s comment above. The mythical dream bubble got bursted here. There is no easy money and people you have to work hard to make money. So be content full with your possessions, plan your life and financials well and work hard on the plan, if you do what you do currently with full intense and focus(trade or something else), believe yourself, believe in what you do and give it a 100% of you, you will make better.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts!
Always wait for your videos…..but what you said is really true…..
Perfect
I love trading, but this is reality. The odds are truly against you. That’s why I do online courses and write books etc. Trading alone won’t bring in the profits. Truth is when you win, and you trade the next day, you lose that same money, so it’s like you breaking even or losing more.
Thanks Rayner I appreciate your simplicity and honesty in the above article. Keep up the good work !
You’re welcome!
Awesome description about trading and all too true. There are way too many articles out there about getting rich fast while trading and sipping mixed drinks on the beach. If only… ;-).
Cheers Brian
Thank you!
You’re welcome!
I want to learned and then want to be a high-frequency trader. Please help. I don’t know good English.
I’m not your man for this.
Hello Theo
Thank you very much, this is profound advice. Unlike those guys who usually promise us an elevation to getting rich quicker, you’ve just changed my mentality towards trading with this post.
How I wish everybody could be this open about trading, and refrain from promising huge amounts that are unbelievable in a short period of time. Thank you very much once again for the wonderful work you do. May the Almighty God bless you in rich abundance.
I only have one question from the post; what do you mean when you say, I must have an edge?
Stay Blessed
Cheers
It means doing something repeatedly that yields a positive expectancy.
For example, if you toss a coin and it comes up head, you win $2. If it’s tail, you lose $1.
Clearly you have an edge in the coin toss.
I should have picked the other pill….
Thank you for the article, very insightful.
A few more notes to add to the trading plan.
Nice!
Your article is effective once reader understand.. It’s very interesting.
Glad to hear that!
Always a pleasure reading one of ur emails
Cheers
I’ve been following you for a year or so now and always enjoy your honest articles.
I cant figure out what kind of trader you are? You say you don’t day trade anymore? are you a trend follower, not asking for your secrets, just curious to know your style..
Swing and position trader.
I trade both systematic and discretionary.
Silit. Cangkeman wae koe cuk jancuk ngising.
Oh! Rayner you’re blessed always because I’m always blessed with new Ideas whenever I read your articles… I’ll never forget you. This particular one is awesome, it gave me a new insights to the market. We’ll be happy one day when I’m close to my goal or at my peak to meet you and let you know you’re someone I look up to. Thanks.
So grim a picture
Would you prefer comforting lies?
Exactly…
So I need to read it again and again until I finally goes to my trading nerves…
Thanks a lot Rayner
Welcome!
There you go again with the 20% year… making 10 cents on a $100 stock every trading day is 25% a year. Can you recommend a day trading stock educator?
Another way to have an edge is to find out what is the game the big guys play and see if you can afford a small stake at that table and keep winning with them. In India it is selling weekly options early in the morning on expiry Thursdays. An option can be bought for as little as Indian Rupees 200 but to sell the same option intraday one requires 20k and for overnight positions it is 75k (India has some of the highest margins in the world – a study recently found that margins here for some positions are 500 times the margins required in other countries). Thursday EOD the big guy laughs his way to the bank since he keeps the premium the little guy has paid and with active index management for the day ensures that maximum options expire worthless. That is an edge but one which very few retail customers can play.
Nice book
Wow that just changed my view in trading…
Thanks for being a great teacher because many times people will tell you start trading and you will be financially free
Glad to help!
Whatever method you use, there is a 90% chance you will fail. That is the actual failure statistics of active traders. You beat these odds by not being active. You enter and exit the market just a few times per year.
Thanks for sharing!
Thank you Rayney. I really learn alot from your emails.
Glad to hear that!
Thank you for your honesty and transparency!
Always a pleasure!
Excellent summary and articles Rayer. A few comments.
Trading is being referenced in general and no specific “vehicles” being mentioned. Options is one that’s missing which is really effective IF and ONLY IF you know what you are doing with the probabilities to fully utilize positive expectancy. Regardless of your vehicles you should be able to determine your success criteria and constraints based on your trading preferences.
1. Need to know your edge based on the probability model of your vehicle as each is different.
2. The scaling (size and frequency) required to achieve the required consistency and $$ for your positive expectancy.
3. Reward to risk ratios also varies depending on the models eg. stocks, forex, options (vertical spreads, irons and in/out spreads and more knifes to use wisely or cut yourself).
Thank you for sharing!
You really look reality in the eyes, but reality, sometimes, it’s so difficult to take. Is there a softer or gentler way to take the impact? Would de-sensitizing emotions during trading be a recommended way? You’re great! Love it.
Hah, I’ll bear that in mind!
Dude! you’re so honest. I real enjoyed reading this article, i got so much from it. Thanks
Glad to hear that!
Hi Rayner, Thanks for your honest article. What’s your opinion on using a prop trading company to get access to a larger pot to trade with? Have you had any experience with prop trading firms?
Yup. I’d say it’s greater for exposure if you’re young and have no liabilities. But there are a lot of gimmicks out there so you’ll have to take note of it.
I have had a $1000 dollar account that made almost $4000 dollars last year.
I believe only half the things you post.
But thats just your opinion,
Good for you 🙂
Thanks Rayner
My pleasure!
Most honest explaination of why additional source of income matters while full time trading & how it doesnt make you less of a trader!!
Cheers Mw!
Thank you Rayner for this piece; most of the truth revealed in your posts are not available elsewhere. My question is apart from the commission paid when you place a trade, what other commissions are in there?
That’s pretty much it. And of course, the spread that you’ll incur.